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  The Great Crowd!

  by A Believer in

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  notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from israel.. 9 after this i saw, and look!

  a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ .

  this great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from every nation!

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  A Believer

  Thier are different great crowds in the Bible. The one mentioned in Rev 9 are the ones who come out of the Tribulation.
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  The Great Crowd!

  by A Believer in

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  notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from israel.. 9 after this i saw, and look!

  a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ .

  this great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from every nation!

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  A Believer

  You went back a whole chapter. That is neither the 144000 or the great crowd of the tribulation.

  The Bible uses the term "great crowd" twenty-four times, referring to different "crowds" or "multitudes". It is silly to pretend that every crowd in the Bible is the same as every other crowd in the Bible. Mentioning that Revelation 19:1 mentions a great crowd in heaven is no more significant than Matthew 26:47 mentioning a great crowd with swords and clubs.
  
  Of course, Jehovah's Witnesses have always recognized that the term "great crowd" is used uniquely at Revelation 7:9 in that there that particular "great crowd" describes the group of humans who survive the "great tribulation" to live forever on earth.
  .. ..(Revelation 7:9-11,13,14) Look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes...11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures... 13 These who are dressed in the white robes, who are they and where did they come from?...These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation [compare Matt 24:3,21]
  
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  Do you believe that Jehovah is using the Organization today?

  by Iamallcool in

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  any elder has never asked me that question so far but i want to be prepared to answer that question if any of them ask me that question in the future.

  i hope that they will never ask me that question.

  any suggestions on how to answer that question would be very much appreciated.

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  notsurewheretogo25 minutes ago

  The answer is no...according to the Feb 17 Study WT.

  They admit that they are not inspired and can get things wrong. So Jehovah has nothing to do with the org.

  TC said it like he knew it for a fact what he was saying but couldn't be bothered to look this up. Seems like he is just looking for something to argue about. No Jehovah doesn't talk to the GB, or people like he used to. But I'm sure he's pleased the Org is letting his name be known. And following in Jesus steps of doing the Fathers will.
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  Wow what do you think true story

  by poopie in

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  this is an actual case.

  a jw was recently disfellowshipped heres the reason.

  he was and elder and regular pioneer at the time baprized 40 years he decides to rent a room from a women who rents rooms out to singles ,he moves in and there's another guy there also renting a room he happens to be disfellowshipped .

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  A Believer

  Good thing I don't believe everything you haters put on the internet. Some here will though...sigh.
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  Survey: Are you Agnostic or Atheist or Christian?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i am agnostic.

  i will count how many agnostics, atheists and christians that are reading this forum regularly.

  please answer my question.

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  A Believer

  I'm a Jehovah witness Christian.
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  The Great Crowd!

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from israel.. 9 after this i saw, and look!

  a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+ .

  this great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from every nation!

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  Who are they?

  4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000,+ sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel:+5 Out of the tribe of Judah 12,000 sealed; out of the tribe of Reuʹben 12,000; out of the tribe of Gad 12,000; 6 out of the tribe of Ashʹer 12,000; out of the tribe of Naphʹta·li 12,000; out of the tribe of Ma·nasʹseh+ 12,000; 7 out of the tribe of Simʹe·on 12,000; out of the tribe of Leʹvi 12,000;out of the tribe of Isʹsa·char 12,000; 8 out of the tribe of Zebʹu·lun 12,000; out of the tribe of Joseph 12,000; out of the tribe of Benjamin 12,000 sealed.

  
  

  Notice the 144000 can be counted and they all come from Israel.
  

  9 After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues,*+ standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes;+ and there were palm branches in their hands.+

  This great crowd, no man was able to number, and they come from EVERY nation! Not just Israel!

  9 “You must pray, then, this way:+“‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name+ be sanctified.*+ 10 Let your Kingdom+ come. Let your will+ take place, as in heaven, also on earth.

  
  

  How great our God Jehovah is!
  
  
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  Scriptures which link Yahweh to the Canaanite god El.

  by evilApostate in

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  today, i want to share some scriptures i have come across in my research which show the link between yahweh and the canaanite god el.

  el and other variations such as elyon, el shaddai and elohim appear many times in the bible.

  these are usually translated as god, most high, god almighty and so on.

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  Exodus 6 2 3

  This isn't saying he was known by another name. If you remember he told Moses to tell pharaoh that his name was i am that i am. The exodus scripture really means that he hadn't told them his name, just that he was God almighty.
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  What is life?

  by punkofnice in

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  when i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.

  psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.

  although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.

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  And although my fellow JW teach that after 1914 it would be only a short amount of time until the End comes...I've realized that we don't understand time like Jehovah. To a Enternal God, even a 1000 years would be a short amount of time because of how long he has been. I just pray to Jehovah that it will be soon and let me be one of those that do get to crossover and be alive to see it from the beginning.

  Edit: That created some kind of link.
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  What is life?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
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  when i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.

  psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.

  although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.

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  A Believer

  Although I do believe in God and have reasons for it and why the End is near I do think about Aethist views sometime.

  Although Aethist hate some religions idea of a Hell, what they believe in is way worse. Nothing. Not even a reward in heaven like those other religons believe. That's scary.

  I wonder what my mindset would be 40-50 years from now when I'm in my 60s or 70s if the End hasn't came. My aunt is 69 and she says she doesn't think it will be that long. But I also remember one time driving to a assembly my moms friend was telling about how her brother said he didn't think the End will come out until ten more years.

  She said she told him "do you really think it will be ten more years?" And now look. That was 2005 and it's to be 12 years.
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  A Believer....... A naughty, naughty sheep....

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "a believer" seems to be our new apologist/disobedient sheep.

  "a believer" ignores the "spirit-directed"/"bible-based" commands of the gb/fds!

  shame on you, "a believer"!!!!

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  A Believer

  Hmmm I hadn't thought of that